Denunciation made on Jan 13, 2010 8:08:24 am

Posted by: Piotr Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 13, 2010 8:08:24 am

I was scammed by Hong Kong Thunder Group Co.,Ltd.
I have paid for order 2 LG phones 231$ with shipping cost by EMS, but I have received pendrives 14 pcs and stop goods by Customs without invoice.
Contact person MeiLin Qiu TradeManager CN209674412 and email szsbr03@hotmail.com, tel.0086-755-81581039

Scammer data for payment via Wester Union:
name: Wen Xia
last name: Wang
Shenzen

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Piotr! Sorry for your lost!

Denunciation made on Jan 13, 2010 4:35:47 am

Posted by: Elias Web: on Jan 13, 2010 4:35:47 am

I'll like to share and expose a website that is outside of alibaba.com domain. I almost fell into their trap, but after reading the various postings here, I'm more vigilant.
Anyway, the following is the conversation using the website's chat:


[Visitor] hello.
[Operator] Hello, how may I help you?
[Visitor] how do i make payment?
[Operator] you may go to any local w/u or bank transfer ,make a payment, or use your credit online banking, transfer the money to our bank.
[Visitor] how about paypal?
[Operator] donot accept paypal
[Visitor] but you put paypal logo on your website.
[Operator] we accept paypal before.
[Visitor] why not now?

After a pause for several minutes:

[Operator] because we sent a lot of products but we only received some payment, the loss is very serious. If we continue to use PayPal, we will lose more
[Visitor] took so long to answer? How can I trust your website?
[Operator] sorry, pls choose other sellers, bye
[Visitor] your website is a fraud, just like the one in alibaba. your website will be exposed to the whole world!
[Operator] i donot understand you , you donot want to get a laptop, and dot pay it, you only want a money or laptop.
[Operator] bye
[Visitor] running away? too scared to continue!
[Operator] no, you are very funy
[Visitor] i'm not trying to be funny. i only hate fraudster & scammer who setup website selling thousands of non-existing products at very low prices! only to CHEAT people!
[Operator] ok, you may buy or not buy. byebye

The webiste is gogochin.com.
Quick search showed that they recommended unsuspecting users who are looking for cheap laptops in several forums to their fraudulent website.
So please be aware that fraud exist everywhere.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Elias! I am sure your share will be usefull!

Denunciation made on Jan 12, 2010 9:27:20 pm

Posted by: fucken mad Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 12, 2010 9:27:20 pm

Shanghai Feiton Trade Co., Ltd.
No.185, Moyu Road, Anting Town, Jiading, Shanghai, China (Mainland) Zip: 200083
Ms. Jingying Cao

T/T(bank transfer)

Bank Name : Bank Of China Branch

Beneficiary Name(Receiver name):
Lin Zheng Cai

Beneficiary Account(Receiver account): 6013826407003305410

Swift Code: BKCHCNBJ73C

Bank Address : No，30, Moyu Road, Jiading, Shanghai,China

Zip Code: 200083


this company is a scam they also had other scam companies on alibaba which have already been shut down
Shanghai Huangfeng Trading Company Ltd
Shanghai Fenghuan trading co
Shanghai Fenghua Trading Company Ltd
Shanghai Fulon Electronics LTD
are to name a few

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Shelley! These are real scammer! They keep buying Gold Supplier status and, of course, Alibaba.com continues to sell them without verification. It is simply stunning!

Denunciation made on Jan 12, 2010 7:50:13 pm

Posted by: mike Web: http:// on Jan 12, 2010 7:50:13 pm

Do not buy electronics from any companies in the fujian province in china. They are all scammers including gold members and trust pass profile and whatever else bullshit certification they claim to have.

Do not deal with Fuzhou Taijiang Yikai electronics co.
NEVER SEND MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION, it is the same as throwing money down the toilet except that you are further helping the scammers scam us. The only way i would ever attempt at sending money is through a L/C with inspection of the goods before shipping.

As far as i am concerned, no company on alibaba, especially in china, can be trusted. They will eventually scam you if they haven't already. China is a nation of communist thieves ripe with corruption and other bullshit.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Mike!

Denunciation made on Jan 11, 2010 10:30:16 pm

Posted by: Barbara Carey Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 11, 2010 10:30:16 pm

Here is another way Alibaba scams us. I am an inventor and Alibaba has many companies selling my product without permission. They even make their own product and use my photography. My product is Spinlash. I only authorize one organization to sell. I have complained numerous times, but they do nothing. My email is barbaras@hairagami.com I would like to hear from other people with this situation and who are interested in a class action law suit.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Barbara! First, let me say that I am with you wholeheartedly. However, China is a land without faith nor law, enforcement of copyrights and patent rights is virtually impossible!
But all is not lost. If you really own the patent on this product, you can get in your own country and all G8 countries, the application to prohibit the entry of your product or copy except by authorized distributors.

Denunciation made on Jan 11, 2010 8:10:47 pm

Posted by: Chris M. - AT.VIE Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 11, 2010 8:10:47 pm

Chengyangzhou Int'l Trading Ltd

on Jan 05, 2010 David Woolley asked if
Chengyangzhou Int'l Trading Ltd
is a legitimate business ?
Can you please tell me the truth about them ?
(Before i put my money in an envelope ;-)

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Chris! Don't even think about it, they are known as cheaters!

Denunciation made on Jan 11, 2010 11:50:51 am

Posted by: Iswardy Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 11, 2010 11:50:51 am

Shenzhen Sen Gang Mold Steel Co., Ltd.

Any idea if this company is geniune?? Luckily, I spotted this website... I almost deal with cn209758684 recently... until I felt something fishy

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Iswardy! It is the sole reason for the existence of this site, this to protect buyers against scams taking place on Alibaba.com

Unfortunately, we can not give you any recommendation on any suppliers, because it may be okay for a while, then after the worst thieves! ;)

Denunciation made on Jan 11, 2010 9:51:55 am

Posted by: nurmansjah Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 11, 2010 9:51:55 am

I have paid for order 4 unit blackberry onyx by citibank Indonesia USD 1,120 to xia lin ping , as instruction from mr peter , zhaomei. electronics.
He sent me a copy from china post that item has sent on document no of parcel CP184664702CN , gross weight 8 kg , but as you know the parcel incoming to my adress in Indonesia to my home Nurmansjah Lubis Jalan Bendungan Hilir III no 7 Tanah Abang only 0,6 kg and the item sent by zhaomei electronics NEW CLOTHES 1 PIECES.
I am very dispointed about this so I report to Alibaba com, about Alibaba trademanger ID:cn209758684 Contact person :Peter Ye
Thanks for your attention
NURMANSJAH LUBIS
nurmansjah@hotmail.com

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Nurmansjah! I am truly sorry for your loss! But you should have done research on this bogus company because there are very few complaints against these crooks! :(

Denunciation made on Jan 11, 2010 1:09:12 am

Posted by: Pioneer Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 11, 2010 1:09:12 am

Be carefull of Shanghai Fenghua Trading Company Ltd. They are BIG SCAMMERS!!! Payment was maid T/T. If any chance to get money back, please let me know.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Than you Pioneer! Yes they are well known as profesionnal crook!!! :(

Denunciation made on Jan 10, 2010 11:11:31 pm

Posted by: Aniq Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 10, 2010 11:11:31 pm

here is another one
Shanghai Jentoon Technology Co

ADMIN COMMENT :
Than you Aniq! I start to think about giving you a special membership here! LOL ;)

Denunciation made on Jan 10, 2010 11:01:50 pm

Posted by: princess Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 10, 2010 11:01:50 pm

i just order 1pc cellphone. and till now it didnt went. ohh too bad. HOW WE WILL AVOID THAT? HOW WE WILL GET OUR MONEY BACK?

ADMIN COMMENT :
Than you Princess! I am terribly sorry, but I dont think you will get your money back because this bogus company is well known as scammer! :(

Denunciation made on Jan 10, 2010 2:02:43 pm

Posted by: Tsomo G Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 10, 2010 2:02:43 pm

I was so surprised when i heard that new iMac 27" computer was almost 1 4th of the usual price so i thought wow this is a good business. And i've spoken with my mom and you know we're not rich people we had borrow money from friends and relatives and all. And i started contacting all the suppliers and dealers who had these items and i'm the type a guy who don't trust nobody unless i know who he/she is you know and the very strange thing was when i start a conversation with like 10-20 of them to get the best price and all tehy all were like that much, that much i was like (wow ok i'm in China now can i purchase like 5-10 items and where can i buy them let me know your address i will buy and i will pay in cash but then they just started disappearing or saying (check our website) so i was like i've already checked that's why i'm cahtting with you now and i'm ready to pay you cash if you want to get my goods. Now where can i buy them? And then they were like well you can buy them in shops... No... i can't find a good price in stores that's why we're connected. Good thing i was never ripped off but i knew somehow that the 20 some people i was contacting were all frauds. i can't even believe it i mean like at least 1 authentical come on now... that was just unbelievable. No wi'm wondering all those millions of people with goldsupplier and trustpass and all that bullshit they are all bunch of criminals. and that is a huge group too. But i'm so sorry about the ones who really lost their money in alibaba. i understand they were only trying to make life better and took a lot of great risks some of them i know sold their houses and all. It really makes me mad thinking about those chinese stupid oh gosh got no words for them.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Than you Tsomo! There is indeed no words to describe all the bitterness and disenchantment of the people against the innumerable amount of crooks operating on Alibaba.com! This must change, it must stop. :(

Denunciation made on Jan 10, 2010 4:20:44 am

Posted by: mazelan Web: on Jan 10, 2010 4:20:44 am

I lost usd700 for purchase acer netbook. what the hell alibaba gold supplier! shijiazhuang ally sage trading co. ltd.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Than you Mazelan! Unfortunately Shijiazhuang Ally Sage Trading Co. are well known as scammer and Alibaba.com keep them operate as a Gold Supplier even if there is many complaint about them! :(

Denunciation made on Jan 09, 2010 2:23:53 pm

Posted by: George Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 09, 2010 2:23:53 pm

does anyone know if this company is legit? and their product quality?
http://williamtrade.en.alibaba.com/

SH BM TRADE CO. LTD??

YOUR HELP IS APPRECIATED

ADMIN COMMENT :
Hi George! Unfortunately I am unable to find anything about this company. Maybe they are just beginning to do business on Alibaba! Anyway, we do not recommend anyone to buy from companies who are in their first year as a Gold Supplier! ;)

Denunciation made on Jan 09, 2010 7:35:34 am

Posted by: Pasquale Leone Web: on Jan 09, 2010 7:35:34 am

the suplayer web site is : http://lsge.en.alibaba.com/

and MSN ID : aaron9987@hotmail.com
I have sent 360 $ how i do to get back my money He was a Gold Seller
I want back my moneY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Pasquale! Unfortunately I am very concerned that you can not recover your money because Alibaba.com has already withdrawn this company: Shijiazhuang Ally Sage Trading Co., Ltd. ;)

Denunciation made on Jan 08, 2010 11:51:08 pm

Posted by: Aniq Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 08, 2010 11:51:08 pm

here is one more company.

I bought some cell phones from them but didnt receive what i ordered.
Companys name is: Shenzhen Futian Jiacheng Communication Firm

do not do business with them

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank's Aniq! But I did not see anything that could confirm that they are fraud. No bad comment on them anywhere yet! ;)

Denunciation made on Jan 08, 2010 6:07:12 am

Posted by: riccardo Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 08, 2010 6:07:12 am

This company is a scam. http://tingfeng2009.en.alibaba.com/ I tried to purchase with Plasma Tv 60 Inch at 450 Usd each. They promised in many emais, the delivery by Dhl. Once they got the money, with mrs emily ( feiton_emily@hotmail.com) We wired the money. They got the money, and sent an email where they writed they couldn't send trough Dhl, as the Chines egovernment putted Dhl in a black list... they couldn't use. That's a big lie. They sent the goods by China Post but didnt' give any tracking number, that by the way is useless. In our opinion they didn't send anything. They do in this way so that customers wait a lot before complaining, and they can committ scam every day with many customers. P.se be wawre of Feiton Trade http://tingfeng2009.en.alibaba.com/. If they change or send money back, i'll let you know, but do not buy as it's a fraud. if anyone has same problems, p.se write us.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Riccardo! The name of that bogus company is : Shanghai Feiton Trade Co., Ltd :)

Denunciation made on Jan 07, 2010 7:17:48 pm

Posted by: Aniq Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 07, 2010 7:17:48 pm

here is another fraud company
- Shanghai Yi Ming Office Equipment Co., Ltd.

http://shyimin.en.alibaba.com/

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you again Aniq! Your help is really appreciated, but I must put a reserve on this one since I found nothing bad on it yet :)

Denunciation made on Jan 07, 2010 1:10:26 pm

Posted by: javid ghoghai Web: http:// on Jan 07, 2010 1:10:26 pm

hello
pls do not buy anything from any where from china specially from www.alibaba.com . i have recently paid 645 $ usd to www.shanghai fuloninternational.com and the lady took the money and disappear. her boss says that you will receive tracking nr in 3 working days. while after one week still no tracking nr and the boss Bubg Sun who seems very smart from clothes but the same jerk person who neglects the email and do not come on web chat although he is online. alibaba.com security trade customer service do not bother.Nor teh chinese embassy in UK. all this are scroundel.pls boycott all purchase of goods from china.
javid ghoghai

ADMIN COMMENT :
Hi Javid! Same here, you should give us the company name that they use on Alibaba! :)

Denunciation made on Jan 07, 2010 1:01:51 pm

Posted by: javid ghoghai Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 07, 2010 1:01:51 pm

i came in contact with alibaba.com a gold supplier called www.pujili.international.he gave me quote for pc parts for 850 USD after agreement he got 645 USD through western union on 11/12/2005 and on 19/12/208 he sent parcel through china post and it contained cheap lady hair styler so one can use for curling hair. They got my signature and now when i have complain they say that they have sent the pc parts. parcel weight was .588kg almost 1/2 kg and his own declaration in the form is that it worth 20 USD. I COMPLAIN TO ALIBABA.COM AND CHINESE EMBASSY but in vain. You cannot do anything just throw it in gutter if you buy anything from alibaba.com.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Javid! You should give us the company name that they use on Alibaba! :)

Denunciation made on Jan 07, 2010 6:58:44 am

Posted by: evangelia loukaki Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 07, 2010 6:58:44 am

Thank God i took my money back..i went to western union and released that they haven't received the money so they told me i can take it back
i m so happy..i don't know what happened and i don't really care
the only one i know is that i will never order from the internet...good luck to everybody

ADMIN COMMENT :
Hey! That is great Evangelia! With your good news, you make my day! Take care! :)

Denunciation made on Jan 06, 2010 5:52:04 pm

Posted by: Aniq Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 06, 2010 5:52:04 pm

I think this last posting is by PETER YE who i got scammed by for 1200. i recognized the speelling of his words ex Bin, curse...etc.

Foshan City Nanhai District Lishui Zhaomei Household Goods
Peter Ye.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank's again Aniq! I think you spot him well! LOL

Denunciation made on Jan 06, 2010 5:29:54 pm

Posted by: Peter Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 06, 2010 5:29:54 pm

Here I want to clear up some misunderstanding about China businesses.
First of all,you can and will be scam't all over the net by anybody. EBay properly more then alibaba !!!!!!
Now yes you lost, ordered and get no more call's and answers but the real reason is this:
This companies do exist and take money and they do send you the product's.Now here is the bad part.They have no insurance and get scame't like you even more then you,much much more that's why they want "cash" up front and no take paypal besides there not into paypal because they don't know or little only about paypal.Next in China people steel and steal and steal when ever and where ever it is possible,not all chines of curse but the one who are able to make big and fast cash money such on airports,post office etc.there the one get easy hands on products,they know the companies therefore they know what's inside etc,they have trucks and can easy transport anything.They have good friends and friends friends and all work together and this is going all the way into the government even.All the time somebody there gets arrested,jailed even hang or shot for such reasons without long talk and without any public notice.
This companies anyway don't have the money to pay for insurance and or don't want to pay for it also don't know nothing even about insurance.why do you think China is so cheap?Now if somebody stole you ordered and paid product at the airport for example, your trucking Nr stops right there of curse simply because its stolen.The companies has no insurance and can not afford to replace the product since they don't make much money to begin with and if so much is stolen,who pay for there loss?You do by not getting nothing.At least they didn't lost your money.Now look right here this page.There are only a hand full complaints.Do you have any idea how big and how much money alibaba make's and is?
Now all the millions of peoples who bought something from all this many companies and in so many year's,and it is the world biggest company in this kind,don't you think this is a very very little tiny drop water to the ocean about this few complaints??? Now of curse there properly many more we don't know about it and you never ever will find any large web page like alibaba or eBay who don't screw people in one way or another.You lost money yes,its quiet bad yes,can you do something about it? Very little or nothing at all specially if you buy from any other country even your own country !!!!!!!
Its the risk you take going sopping on the net.That's it!!!!
You know it,I know it but we're all ready to fall for it to save a few even a lot of money.Now live with it and keep complaining.If you live in another 100 years,will you not get screwed anymore? I think you will.It was the past million years this way and its here to stay.
Now good luck and keep shopping.By the way this page here will not change a thing what's so ever!!! People will keep shopping,no matter what but if you a patriot,complain not only here,complain to the China government and trust me,they find out bad things happen to or in alibaba,they clean up alibaba faster then you can blink with your eye's and chances are the bosses of this companies go to jail a live time if not get shot within 3 months of proof (or without).Again, complain to the chines government.They take care fast and good of the peoples complaints specially if they come from foreigners !!!!!! This is a fact people !!!!!! Any government agents involved in scam are dead meat if the government find out.
I have bin in China a couple times and lived and worked there,I am married to a chines women.I know what I am talking about,trust me.
Now I go and send some company my money and "hope" all is fine like it always was before.I bin screwed before too in my own country a couple of times and had extreme hard time getting my money back and some I lost,lucky it was only small amount's.Any time I want to buy for larger amount's of money,I check out the company several different ways,yet there is always still a chance to loose.
Good luck.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Dear Peter,

First, put the record straight! All this has nothing to do with the Chinese, but only with Alibaba, which sells Gold Supplier status to crooks without verifying anything and subsequently promoted to us this status by saying that these companies have been audited.

Secondly, I have never seen a place where it was possible to find as many scams at once. I made over 600 transactions on eBay without ever having been scammed, not even once! The sole reason why the crooks operating on Alibaba.com will not use PayPal, it's only because the PayPal Security Service responds quickly to complaints and froze the account in case of dispute. Thus, the scammers can not go with the fruit of their misdeeds.

Sorry but I do not share your opinion!

ALSO I FOUND OUT THAT YOU ARE IN BERLIN, GERMANY, NOT IN CHINA LIKE YOU SAID!

Denunciation made on Jan 06, 2010 3:29:38 pm

Posted by: Anwar K. Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 06, 2010 3:29:38 pm

I paid Foshan City Nanhai District Lishui Zhaomei Household Goods Co $2000 for 10 Motorola Droid cell phones but never received anything from them. They gave me a tracking number everytime i track the item it shows its at Shanghai internation Airport. It has been almost a month now and i have not received anything. Also they are not comunicating with me anymore, not answering my messages, not answering my emails, the phone number they gave me is not a working number. I do not know what to do??

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you Anwar! Unfortunatly there is no solution other then make a official denunciation to police authorities. but in china... you know what i mean!!!

Denunciation made on Jan 06, 2010 2:24:54 pm

Posted by: gtejeda Web: http://alibabascam.com on Jan 06, 2010 2:24:54 pm

Hi

I have send money to one company but they did not send any goods. and I send to another company for 10-pcs Rocford Fosgate T1500.2, 5-pcs Sony XEC-1000 and 2 Radio Pioneer avh-p4100dvd and avh-p5100dvd for total price US$1,750.00. So I think I have been FRAUD by alibaba supplier.

So please help me to find their contacts.

I send the money by T T.

Tell me what to do please. Because I like alibaba and I this my first order from china by alibaba help. I think there is something wrong going on these days.

My e-mail address for MSN : gerson_t7531@hotmail.com, gerson.tejeda@gmail.com
And the supplier web site is : http://lsge.en.alibaba.com/
And MSN ID : aaron9987@hotmail.com

Before they were online always and after I send the money they give me a wrong tracking No for EMS. And now they are offline and there phone is powered off.

If you search Google by this company name you will find many other people have the same problem, for example: http://www.bustathief.com/scammer-company-shijiazhuang-ally-sage-trading-co-ltd/

I have around 11 people have the same problem with this company, I can give you there contact if you want.

Please kindly help me and stop this FRAUD from this suppliers.
With my best regards to alibaba.

ADMIN COMMENT :
Thank you gTejeda! This bogus company seem to have made so much victims and yet so much more to come!